Things for iPhone and iPod touch available

We are happy to announce that Things for iPhone and iPod touch is available now! If you own one of those devices you may want to watch for this icon in the iTunes App Store:

Developing Things touch has been an incredible experience. The capabilities of the device and the software development kit are amazing. With just over one month development time, meeting the deadline for the App Store’s launch seemed difficult, if not impossible. But we did it and we couldn’t be happier.

The code for Things touch comes in at a quarter of the size of the desktop version. And we couldn’t reuse a single line from the desktop version. Everything is new and shiny, almost as polished as the box depicted in the app icon :) By now we are so exhausted, it is doubtful we will be even able to finish this post… :).

There were a few trade-offs involved: for one, we have at least two completely different approaches to the tags interface, and there wasn’t enough time for real world testing to rule out either of them, or to find the perfect synthesis. So rather than delivering the next best approach, we decided to disable tags in 1.0.

Second, syncing with the desktop version of Things is not yet possible in 1.0. Based on your feedback we decided that seamless over the air sync with the desktop version is a must. Unfortunately, there wasn’t enough time to ready this feature in time for the App Store launch. Releasing a critical feature like this under time pressure without extensive testing is a big no no. Plus, iTunes automatically backups your to-dos every time you connect your iPhone, so data loss is not an issue. Of course, we could have delayed Things touch in order to implement full syncing. But considering the more than 100 amazing responses to our previous iPhone article, it was completely obvious that releasing Things touch even a single day later than absolutely necessary was not an option.

By now you can probably tell that version 1.0 of Things touch will not be around for very long. We will quickly add substantial features in a whole series of free updates. There are already two improvements that are not present in the desktop version. An extensive description of Things for the iPhone complete with screenshots will be available soon. We would be happy if you give us your support for our continued work and buy Things for the iPhone and iPod touch. As a courtesy to our avid Things users we decided to start at an introductory price of $9.99. Take advantage of it now, it won’t last for long. And don’t forget to rate and comment on our App Store page if you like to.

On the weekend we will be partying and relaxing, sharing some time with our families. But first thing Monday morning, work on the first update will begin. And then in a few days a badge on the App Store icon may tell you that a free Things update has arrived, one from many, that will make your task management even more enjoyable and effective.

319 Comments

  1. Chris Jul 10, 2008

    At the moment, the introductory price is not yet reflected in the AppStore. It should be updated shortly.

  2. Oliver Jul 10, 2008

    Congratulations of getting it rolled out!
    I am now waiting for iPhone OS 2.0 to be up..

    Definitely gonna download Things touch!

    Cheers from Bonn, Oliver

  3. Andreas Jul 10, 2008

    Great news, already found it on the App Store and with introductory price i will be the first in line buying it.

  4. Stephane Jul 10, 2008

    I found Things Touch before reading this article but for sure I’ll buy it as soon the 2.0 will be released. Great work guys !!

  5. flipdoubt Jul 10, 2008

    More of an App Store question than a Things question, but what will be the policy on moving purchased apps if I continue using my iPhone 1.0 and, some time later, decide to upgrade to iPhone 2.0? Will I be able to transfer my purchased apps?

  6. Richard Jul 10, 2008

    Thanks for all your hard work. Excellent to see the app as on of the 1st on the app store. My phone should be delivered tomorrow and I look forward installing Things on it.

    Can I confirm that ‘Areas’ is implemented in this version?

  7. Tim Jul 10, 2008

    Thanks for the hard work, looking forward to it already. To dos on the iPhone will be so much more useful than just the desktop.

    Personally I don’t use the tags at all, just as a simple to do list.

  8. Nick Toye Jul 10, 2008

    How can we purchase a the introductory price? It says £11.99 on my iTunes Store.

    Also are we able to buy this product before we buy the actual iPhone?

  9. Wolfgang Jul 10, 2008

    The icon looks pretty nice.

  10. Oliver Jul 10, 2008

    @Nick Toye

    Yes you can. It will be uploaded when you sync your iPhone… ;)

  11. Nick Toye Jul 10, 2008

    Ok, so how do I get it for $9.99?

  12. Tim Henderson Jul 10, 2008

    You guys are awesome! Thanks so much for all your work to pound this out. Things is the number one application I want to have on my (new) iPhone.

  13. Jamie Jul 10, 2008

    Tremendous work guys. I was totally shocked when I saw the Things icon on the AppStore as I didn’t expect to see it for a while.

    PS – the icon is very nice. Way better than the desktop version!

  14. blepe Jul 10, 2008

    CONGRATULATIONS !! WILL BUY IT ASAP !!

  15. Jim Laurent Jul 10, 2008

    Can you make “Things” Sync with iCal to do lists? This is something I require to switch to iPhone. I use to dos on Treo 650 and they sync with iCal.

  16. Ludwig Schubert Jul 10, 2008

    Wirklich gute Arbeit, ich denke das Verschieben von Features war hier die richtige Entscheidung. 9,99€ Finde ich gut :D

    Really good work, I think that postponing features was the right decision in this case. I like the 9,99€ :D

    @Jamie: Why do you like it better? The Things icon is really recognizable while the Things Touch icon looks too generic to me.

  17. Tom Jul 10, 2008

    Things seems to be listed at £5.99 in the UK now. Just bought it. Strangely, inside the link on the things about page it is still at £11.99.

    I have bought it anyway and just hope it didnt charge me more.

  18. Ludwig Schubert Jul 10, 2008

    @ Jim Laurent:
    Once Things Touch syncs back to Things, your ToDos will to iCal.
    If you don’t use Things, I don’t know whether it will be possible.

  19. Nick Toye Jul 10, 2008

    @Tom, it says £11.99 to me?

  20. Tom Jul 10, 2008

    If you go to productivity, then page 2, it is listeed at £5.99

    By the way, if it charged me ¬£11.99, I’m writing straight to cultured code for a partial refund!

    Written a review for it as well.

  21. tobi Jul 10, 2008

    Hi, Things is great, but the German Appstore says 15,99€? Wrong Price?

  22. Anonymous Jul 10, 2008

    £11.99 on the UK store — is that right?

  23. Justin Stevens Jul 10, 2008

    justin_stevens @culturedcode ‘Things’ is $9.99 in the US, based on today’s exch it is $23.70 in the UK. Well done though guys, look forward to using it. 3 minutes ago from web in reply to culturedcode

  24. Gogs Jul 10, 2008

    It’s still showing as $23.99 in the Australian App Store. Perhaps it takes a while to update other countries stores? Will check back in the morning.

  25. Nick Toye Jul 10, 2008

    I needed to restart iTunes.

  26. Tom Jul 10, 2008

    Read the last comments Рit is supposed to be £5.99 in the UK Рstill a little more than $9.99 in the US but a reasonable price.

  27. Jamie Jul 10, 2008

    @ Ludwig. I have never liked the perspective of the desktop icon. It is distinctive, but its not pretty (a lame reason I know)

    Is it definitely £11.99 for the app on the UK store? Seems a bit expensive given that its $9.99 in the States. Thats basically a 100% premium.

  28. Bensan George Jul 10, 2008

    Great job! It’s a shame that I have to wait until the end of August to get off my current cell phone contract. I hope that introductory price is still available. I had fun following the development of this project for awhile. Can’t wait to get it!

    Thanks for all your hard work.

  29. Silverado Jul 10, 2008

    Great news!! I intend to buy it as soon as it’s available!

    However, it’s showing as $19.99 in the US.

  30. Jamie Jul 10, 2008

    @Besnan you can still buy Things before you get your iPhone to take advantage of the introductory price

  31. Cary Stephan Jul 10, 2008

    What’s the timeframe on desktop Things sync? I need the sync most of all but dislike paying for the iPhone version that I won’t be using for some time.

  32. Nick Toye Jul 10, 2008

    @Bensan, you can buy it now and it will synch when you get your new iPhone, that’s what I have done.

  33. Adam Jul 10, 2008

    “Purchase of this item is not currently available.

    This item is being modified. Please try again later.”

    I guess it takes the iTunes store a little while to update the price properly.

  34. Nick Toye Jul 10, 2008

    Oh right? I have mine already purchased, downloaded and waiting for me to buy the iPhone.

  35. Jürgen Jul 10, 2008

    The introductory prices are as follows:

    US $9.99
    GB £5.99
    AU $12.99
    EU 7.99

    Unfortunately the App Stores are quite slow to update. For example in Europe the price is still listed at EU 15.99 when you browse for Things. But when you go to the app’s page it correctly says, EU 7.99. I am sure introductory prices will trickle trough soon.

  36. Jürgen Jul 10, 2008

    We are constantly updating our Things for iPhone product page with new screenshots. Be sure to check it out.

  37. drix Jul 10, 2008

    it’s showing as 7,99‚Ǩ¬†on the category-list in the german store and ridiculous 15,99‚Ǩ on the product page.

    wtf?

  38. Don Jul 10, 2008

    What exciting news! This is one of the few products that I am looking forward to paying for! Can’t wait for the sync feature to be enabled.

    Just to be certain — paying for the desktop version will not include iPhone version, correct? Any timeframe on when we will all have to pony up for Desktop Things?

    Don

  39. Ben Jul 10, 2008

    Just purchased, listed at £5.99
    O2 had better have a phone for me tomorrow :)

  40. wvku Jul 10, 2008

    Great news.!
    Purchased it the second I read it,
    as encouragement and thanks for the developers.
    Indeed *very* much looking forward to the inclusion of tags and sync.
    Good job, relax a bit and… hope to see the new features really soon.

  41. Reinhard Jul 10, 2008

    Great work, guys!

    And the best thing about Things: it’s from Germany. ;-)

    I am really looking forward to upgrade my 1st Gen iPhone to Software 2.0 and liberate it from its Simlock again. As soon as this is done, Things Touch will be the very first app to be installed from the app store. Things Touch is going to be THE major app for my iPhone (and much more important for me than Things Desktop, as the iPhone is my major calendar & to-do device).

    To me it’s a miracle that Apple sold 6 million iPhones with no proper to-do app installed …

  42. Mark R. Jul 10, 2008

    Delighted to see Things touch come to the app store. You’ve done a great job so far.

    Over the air sync is a must. I will not maintain 2 separate to-do lists.. As you said in your article, this feature is on it’s way.. I will buy Things touch then.

    Thanks guys! Great work.

  43. ZingerSteve Jul 10, 2008

    Fantastic! I can’t wait to start using it (once I get my iPhone tomorrow). It’ll definitely be a top app for me.

  44. Werner Jul 10, 2008

    You can have a look at our product page here, just in case you haven’t done so already:

    http://culturedcode.com/things/iphone/

    We will be adding more screenshots soon.

  45. Brad Jones Jul 10, 2008

    Congratulations and thanks for all the hard work. I am looking forward to having Things with me on the go.

  46. Anthony Baker Jul 10, 2008

    Great work, folks.

    So, a quick question: While Things Desktop syncing is not available, are you saying that with the 2.0 firmware, I’ll at least be able to sync iCal to-do items with the iPhone version of Things? Or is there absolutely no syncing at all right now?

  47. Silverado Jul 10, 2008

    Just to be clear, even without over the air sync, the iPhone app will still be sync’d with my computer when I sync via iTunes, correct?

  48. Chris Jul 10, 2008

    Wow! Thanks so much!

    Does the Touch version support repeating tasks?

  49. Aaron Jul 10, 2008

    As much as I love seeing the app in the store on the first day, I think syncing with the desktop version was more important than getting it launched on day 1. I’ll hold off until that is added in. That’s the most appealing feature to me.

    Nice work on the app though, it looks great!

  50. Silverado Jul 10, 2008

    Upon re-reading the OP, it is clear that there is no syncing at all with the desktop version.

    While I understand your decision and I am still thoroughly impressed with and excited about the early availability of Things for the iPhone, unfortunately I won’t be able to use it. That’s because using it would imply having to re-enter all my To Do’s on the iPhone. It will be more useful for a new user of Things than for established ones with MANY To Do’s already entered.

  51. Nick Beadman Jul 10, 2008

    I have my entire personal and working life in Things right now and synching with the desktop version is absolutely essential for me.

    I wonder if, once synching is done, there will be two prices for the desktop application? I am thinking there would be a price for just the desktop version and another (higher) price for both the desktop and touch applications.

    There is certainly value in the desktop application right now but I can’t imagine typing everything in again for the touch application. I would love to send you money now for the desktop application though!

  52. Jeff Jul 10, 2008

    Things works great on the iPhone! Although it’s fairly useless if I can’t sync. Kind of upset i purchased it knowing the limitations, but i had to support my friends at Cultured Code.

    Great work. Can’t wait for syncing.

  53. Mike Jul 10, 2008

    Am I right in thinking that I can’t sync anything from my Desktop with Things for iPhone? To me that’s 110% useless.

  54. Jay Jul 10, 2008

    I found a little visual “bug” on your Things product page! :-p

    Under the section title “Out of Your Head – Into Things” it says, “An add button is always available in the lower left of every screen in Things.”

    That’s awesome but the screenshot to the left is missing the “add button”! OOPS! ;-)

    Did I win something?

  55. Rob Hulson Jul 10, 2008

    Me. My wife. My mother-in-law. We’re all getting Things.app today. :o) As David Allen said,

    The ability to leverage that thinking with good collection devices that are always at hand is key to increased productivity.

    David Allen, Getting Things Done, p. 30.

    Having Things available in my hand is far more useful right now than having it on my desktop (as useful as that is!). You guys have done a bang-up job and deserve a rest. I look forward to the promised features, but for now, Things Touch is going to help immensely for a meeting I have planned for Sunday. Thanks, you guys, and I’ll be thanking you with my hard-earned dollar bills.

  56. ben Jul 10, 2008

    Am I correct in assuming that syncing with iCal todos over USB requires Leopard (Tiger won’t work)?

    I sure hope not.

    But even if so, I must say I am pleased as punch to see this available, and I intend to purchase it straightaway.

  57. Mark Grimes Jul 10, 2008

    PLEASE add areas support soon, not having this hurts badly

  58. John Jul 10, 2008

    im actually upset that syncing was not the priority than getting out day 1, i know that you probably lose some business due to omni focus having theres out. but if you look at the 2. 1 has syncing the other doesn’t. it makes your product look inferior (which we all disagree). i hope you add syncing and areas soon. i bought it today but there is no use for it until those are added

  59. Simon Jul 10, 2008

    Really excited to see Things on the App Store. Congratulations on getting in there at launch!

    However, as other posters have already said, I’m not interested in installing it until I can actually use it. You definitely have my ¬£5.99 (+$39 for the Desktop version) …just as soon as some sort of sync is working.

    I don’t mind waiting longer for over-the-air (I don’t think Apple is allowing this through their Push servers until September time), but syncing with the local machine via USB is a must for me.

    Anyway, thanks for creating such an amazing application, and I can’t wait to use it to its full potential!

  60. jim Jul 10, 2008

    so excited about this! Things has changed my life!
    i just went to purchase on itunes but it would not let me said to try later.
    i don’t really need it if it doesn’t sync but i am going to purchase just to support all your hard work on such a great application.
    HURRY UP AND SYNC!!!

  61. Johan Jul 10, 2008

    Great!
    But in future versions of both the desktop, please implement subproject possibility. Several levels. That is a must for me.
    I would like to sponsor you by buying the app, but first I need to know that this will be implemented soon, otherwise it is of no use for me.

  62. AW Jul 10, 2008

    Things is the *only* app that I have been anxiously awaiting. Although I’m thoroughly disappointed that sync is not immediately available, I’ll put my trust in you guys that it will arrive shortly…and try to exercise some patience. :)

    Very happy to pay…thanks for all the fast work guys!

  63. JIm Jul 10, 2008

    Congratulations!

    Although I’m bummed that over-the-air sync with desktop isn’t implemented yet, I will be one of the first to buy this over the weekend. In fact, it’s one of the main reasons why I’m buying a 3G iPhone tomorrow – primarily for this app integration!

    Congrats again and much success in the future.

  64. [...] went back to the CulturedCode.com site and linked over to the iPhone App Store, bought Things, installed, and now–after a full year [...]

  65. Jürgen Jul 10, 2008

    Thanks guys for your support and amazing comments! Yes, we are sorry that despite our hard work, sync didn’t make it into Things touch yet. But we will have some remedy in place soon…

    I do believe though that we have a great win-win situation here. Not only can you get an incredible discount, but you can also express your support by taking advantage of the early adopter pricing. $9.99 for eventually getting the whole goodness of the desktop version into your pocket (updates are free!) still seems like a hell of a deal to me. Don’t forget that this is meant as a deliberate gift to all you brave early adopters :) !

  66. Mark Grimes Jul 10, 2008

    While the interface is much cleaner than OF, you can’t help but appreciate OF using Location services and being able to enter text, take a picture or make a voice recording. Are there any plans for this? OF is making it compelling to switch despite their atrocious desktop interface.

  67. RoyofSF Jul 10, 2008

    Tremendous accomplishment is such a short period of time!

    Happy to hear you’ll be celebrating this weekend. I told Oliver in a thread that Things is as addictive as a good game but more fun and certainly more useful. What a difference Things has already made for me and it’s great fun dealing with you guys.

  68. Noah Jul 10, 2008

    I stayed up late to buy this but I was charged $19.99. In addition to not having sync yet I feel like I wasted my money. The app looks great but like many people I have been using the desktop app heavily so no sync kills any chance of me using it. Who do I about getting a partial refund from?

  69. Matt Jul 10, 2008

    No Sync?? I wouldn’t think an application like this would be released without this fundamental requirement.. whats the point?

    I am guessing its not possible, but I am contacting Apple for a full refund.. and I loved Things on the desktop.. this just ruins it.

  70. Gerry Jul 10, 2008

    I’ve been using Things for a while now and it has greatly improved my productivity and helped me organize many of my life’s projects.

    It’s great to now have that same set of features when I’m on the go. Thanks!

  71. Johannes Jul 10, 2008

    I just bought Things touch to express my support although I have to wait for my iPhone till october – I need to port my current mobile number from Vodafone!
    I really need sync to mobileme for my two Macs and my future iPhone. I want to be synced on all of my machines.
    Thanks for your hard work!

  72. Brady J. Frey Jul 10, 2008

    I was so excited when this came out, but I have to admit, I was disappointed for the lack of syncing as well… to me, this is worthless until that happens:(. Good luck, and thanks for the great app – I’ll keep with the desktop version for now atleast and hope the change comes fast!

  73. ben Jul 10, 2008

    Just tossing this out again.

    Does this sync with iCal todos?
    And if so, must it be on a Leopard system, or will iCal on Tiger work?

  74. Tim Henderson Jul 10, 2008

    Matt, I’m not sure if you read the post or not before you bought it (I would have been disappointed if I bought it thinking I was getting sync) but I think the point is that we are getting a sweet program for $10 instead of $20 and syncing is coming soon. There’s no question that syncing is hugely important and Things won’t be nearly as useful until that’s working, but they are giving us a great discount and working their tails off I’m sure.

  75. Alderete Jul 10, 2008

    Could you talk about bundle pricing, or pricing in general?

    Specifically, will there ever be a bundle of Things Desktop and Things Touch, with a lower price? Will that be cheaper / similar to buying each today at the introductory prices?

    I’m not asking for specifics, but it would be useful for you to write “Buying the separate apps today, at the introductory prices, will be your best deal. ;-)” if that is indeed true.

  76. corbanb Jul 10, 2008

    woohoo!!! iPhone app! love it love it love it! buttt…. no syncing?!?! whats the point? I was really bummed to pay $10 and that wasn’t already built in. At least a direct connect sync option! :( well I hope this changes fast and i don’t have to pay more!

  77. Silverado Jul 10, 2008

    Despite the lack of syncing (even with a cable – I don’t care much about wireless syncing), I will buy this application tonight to show my support and thanks. Please follow up with wired syncing as soon as possible.

    Keep up the good work!

  78. Mark Grimes Jul 11, 2008

    I’m with you Silverado – I work from a MacBookPro and carry an iphone, thus I have physical access to both almost all the time. Wireless syncing would do nothing to aid that workflow if it will resemble OmniFocus’ crazy WebDAV dependency.

  79. Marco Piol Jul 11, 2008

    Thanks so much guys or what you are doing for the mac community. Your app is truly top notch. It is BY far the best GTD application and remains one of the best applications for MAC OSX period.
    Good luck on further development of THings and Things touch.
    Thanks,
    Marco

  80. Ross Hill Jul 11, 2008

    Now I just need an iPhone to run it on.. :) Good work guys!

  81. Jody Jul 11, 2008

    I’ve seen this question asked but I don’t see an answer. Will there be syncing in this version eventually? I’ll gladly pay $9 now if I get syncing with this paypoint. If syncing isn’t coming until the next major upgrade and I need to pay for that upgrade then that’s $9 I wasn’t using.

  82. MILE Jul 11, 2008

    Just like its desktop counterpart, this is a great app…and just like its desktop counterpart it’s only available in English…!?! WTF!?! You guys are a German group of developers and even you don’t bother including a few localizations…?!? That’s really disappointing…!!! :(((

  83. Michael Jul 11, 2008

    I updated to OS 2.0 earlier today, and what a pleasant surprise to see Things in the iTunes store! I’ve been using Things.app on the desktop, but I haven’t been following the blog so I wasn’t aware it was coming out.

    I was a beta tester and purchased a copy of OF right when it came out, but I switched to Things desktop after giving it a short try. Before throwing away any more money, I carefully looked at the iPhone version before deciding. Even without desktop sync, I believe Things is the better application.

    You should be receiving my $6.993 whenever Apple gets around to paying.

  84. oliver Jul 11, 2008

    @Jody:
    Syncing will be provided in a *free* update.

  85. Rob Claisse Jul 11, 2008

    Great news and probably one of my main reason for wanting an iPhone today. But like many other no sync means its useless for now, will buy ready for the update but will have to hide it away so I don’t see it everytime I look at my iPhone home screen!

    Horrible I know, but I can’t wait for the next update with any kind of syncing :-) Sorry!

  86. Matt Wigham Jul 11, 2008

    Congrats on shipping guys. I just bought it and it looks great. Keep up the incredible work, and have a hell of a weekend. You’ve earned it.

  87. Joe Kavanagh Jul 11, 2008

    I’m going to have to join the chorus saying “it’s useless without sync.” I want to implement your system but come on guys. We need sync! I’ve bought the app on faith that it won’t be long until you start bootstrapping in sync and other functions. Please make sync your number one priority.
    -Joe Kavanagh

  88. Leced Jul 11, 2008

    Thanks for the good work. Just bought it this morning, happy to see Things on my iPod touch (as soon as 2.0 firmware is available)…

  89. ljun Jul 11, 2008

    How exactly will syncing be implemented later? Can we have it sync to our own servers (via webdav, ftp, sftp, etc) or does it have to be MobileMe?

  90. [...] auch so geht, würden jetzt also erst mal viele auf Things verzichten, wäre da nicht das nette Angebot das uns CuturedCode macht. Erst mal Things für 9,99$ kaufen die updates der genannten Features [...]

  91. Ben Jul 11, 2008

    3rd times the charm:

    Does Things touch actually sync via USB to iCal todos (as I’ve heard mentioned), and if so, does on need to be running Leopard?

  92. Jason Moore Jul 11, 2008

    I’m a fairly new user to Things and have been anxiously awaiting the iPhone app. I bought it last night, not realizing that sync would not be available. I’m pretty bummed. I love Things and have been using it daily for a few months. And I can’t wait for sync. But in the meantime, the first thing I’m going to do is look for another app at the iTunes app store that DOES sync. I need a to-do list that works. I kind of hope I don’t find a better app than Things b/c it’s so great, but until there is syncing, I’m going to be looking for something else. Anyone have a suggestion for a stop-gap program that is similar? Sorry guys, but unless syncing comes out in a week or so, this is kind of a big deal…

  93. Werner Jul 11, 2008

    @Ben: Whenever you connect your iPhone/iPod touch to your computer via an USB cable, iTunes automatically syncs all your applications and their content from the iPhone.

    What this means is that, should you loose or damage your iPhone, you can plug a new one into iTunes, sync all your applications back, and everything is back to normal. This includes all the to-dos that you entered into Things.

    This does not mean, however, that the to-dos sync up in iCal. In fact, a direct synchronization between any iPhone app and iCal is technically not possible. You would always need a helper program on the desktop that mediates between the two. And in our case, once it’s implemented, Things for the desktop will be the link.

  94. ben Jul 11, 2008

    @Werner

    Thank you for the response. That clears things up for me!

  95. Mel Jul 11, 2008

    I just bought Things for IPhone and love it. I have a PC so syncing isn’t necessary though I wish Things worked for PC. I also wish for:
    Integration with iCal on the iPhone, a way of repeating tasks, and moving or deleting multiple to dos at once. This works beautifully with Do It Tomorrow so thanks!

  96. Andy Viloria Jul 11, 2008

    I am now happy that I have Things in my iPhone! 80% of the time, I use my iPhone for my ToDo list since I am out and about most of the time. I can live, for now, without the sync option. To compliment Things, I also bought SplashShopper for my Grocery, shopping, etc. checklist that re-uses the items (items you buy regularly, etc).

    Cheers!

    andyv

  97. Facu Puig Jul 11, 2008

    Hi there. I was the guy who wrote the first note under your iTunes Store, and I’M proud of that!.
    Guys is there any way that I can help with the Spanish translation of Things and Things Touch?
    If so. Please let me know.
    Greetings from Argentina.

  98. Anthony Jul 11, 2008

    The iPhone app Рa huge disappointment that there is no sync with my desktop. What do I do? Manually transfer my entire to do list over? I paid £5.99 for what? This is useless without any syncing. Over the air is not a priority Рsome kind of sync is!

    Have a rest guys but get this feature in early next week or give me my money back so I can buy a product that syncs.

    Not your best hour.

  99. Rick Jul 11, 2008

    I’d be glad to buy and use Things for the iPhone but I won’t because the iPhone isn’t sold in Vermont. And the 8Gb iPod touch I could buy here costs $100 more than an 8Gb iPhone costs everywhere else!

    Replacing my iPod with an iPod touch just to use Things would cost $300! In my opinion, a bit too expensive no matter how great Things becomes.

    Rick

  100. Van Ness Jul 11, 2008

    Awesome job guys–rest up this weekend. And then, can you get back to finishing the original Things! You know, the desktop version, the one that most of us have been waiting since December to reach version 1.0.

  101. Ayodh Jul 11, 2008

    I hope you guys will keep the special price around for a while.. The iphone isnt even launched in India yet :(

  102. The Chief Jul 11, 2008

    Sorry Van Ness, you’ll have to wait a bit longer. We’ve got to get going on a version of Things for the ShoePhone 3G–Things Step!

  103. Klaus Jul 11, 2008

    Just bought Things touch — my first app ever on the App Store. Won’t use it, though, as there is no point in working with it unless my tasks are synched from desktop Things.

    Just roll the desktop thing (pun) out, it’s fine as it is, get some cash, and then focus on synching exclusively.

    Cheers,

    Klaus

  104. Bill Lloyd Jul 11, 2008

    The desktop app isn’t quite fine as-is… it has quite a few UI issues like the fact that you can’t arrange projects in the sidebar… it throws up a dialog ;-)

  105. Heartless Jul 11, 2008

    The natives are getting restless…
    I’d say… (in order)
    1) Skip the weekend with the family….
    2) Hack something that syncs.
    3) Spend the rest of your life rich with family.

    Remember as made famous by Spock in the Wrath of Khan:
    “Were I to invoke logic, however, logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. “

  106. Dave Jul 11, 2008

    I downloaded this app thinking it would sync with my desktop version of Things. It doesn’t. How do I go about getting a refund? I’ve contacted Apple but I’m yet to hear from them.

  107. Neil Jul 11, 2008

    As an OmniFocus refugee (I still can’t figure out how to sort my list of folders after seven months), I hope Things Desktop will ship soon. I echo the concern of some that you need both versions to really manage your tasks and they need to talk to each other in some fashion. I could live with cable sync for a little while.

  108. Gregg Jul 12, 2008

    Just purchased the iPhone app. Nice BUT I won’t be using it without sync to desktop.

    I’ve just paid 5.99 GBP for what? I’m investing in you guys! Please get a sync’d update out asap.

    Hell, you can take my money for v1.0 desktop NOW if it means you can get it out both versions running together.

  109. Some Customer Jul 12, 2008

    This is deception.

    If you can’t sync back to the computer then it’s not really functional. I hope people take note of this and abstain from purchasing this in the future. Supporting these types of practices encourages more developers to dump crapware on our devices with nothing but promises to update in the future.

    I don’t purchase software hoping that the developer might update it one day. I expect it to work on day 1 with a main feature that’s specific to each application. It’s like purchasing an FTP software that only can transfer files on a local network, with developer promising to “update it” in the future where it puts files on remote servers.

    I’m disappointed.

  110. BoBo Jul 12, 2008

    I want to give you my money. Please implement sync as soon as possible.

  111. roy Jul 12, 2008

    since it’s on the phone, will it someday be possible to add call reminders at certain times of day?

  112. Dan Hancock Jul 12, 2008

    Wow, lots of negativity in these comments for such a wonderful product.

    Thank you for creating this iPhone app. I’ve already switched over all of my most urgent items to the iPhone app, and while I do look forward to the syncing, it’s certainly not a deal breaker for me like it seems to be for others.

    You’ve got my money for the iPhone app, and I look forward to the 1.0 release of Things for the desktop. You guys are superb.

  113. Shawn Jul 12, 2008

    NO SYNC?! You’re kidding right?

    Why would I want to pay $10 for this app if it does not sync. I think this should have been made a little more clear.

  114. David Jul 12, 2008

    I would have paid double the price or more. Get some rest. I look forward to MobileMe Push support.

    Thanks

  115. Bill Jul 12, 2008

    Great job.

    Have a great weekend.

    Add me to the fan list.

    Will buy the desktop app.

    Will rec to clients, friends, and family.

  116. Brett Jul 12, 2008

    @Shawn It says it clearly if you read the whole page. You are also getting it at a discount if you buy now. Wait till sync is implemented and you’ll be paying more. Buy now and you’ll get sync as a free upgrade soon.

  117. Sue Jul 12, 2008

    the iPhone application is great. I use windows (sorry, but work demands it). Are there plans for a windows version of Things, and would this support sync? I’d be happy if it did no more than the touch version, I just would like a way to type properly, and copy and paste.

  118. Rory Jul 12, 2008

    This is a great product even without the sync, so well done guys. Rome was not built in a day. And for £5.99 its a steal. Enjoy your weekend! One very happy customer.

  119. GeoffC Jul 12, 2008

    Bought this one today, I am really looking forward to the Sync with the Mac Desktop Client.

    Good work so far! Enjoy your party this weekend, then back to work first thing Monday!

    Geoff

  120. Ivan Blatter Jul 12, 2008

    Great work! I just bought it and it looks great!

    Of course I miss the Sync too but I can live with it because you offer the preview of Things for free and the iPhone app for just $9.99.

    So, guys who are not fully content: Be happy, enjoy Things and your life. :-)

  121. dan Jul 12, 2008

    Thanks for the great app!
    I understand, but miss the sync. I got so excited when I saw the app for sale at the iTunes store I paid $19.99. Then the sale price was listed after purchase. So I probably should have shown a little restraint, but love your desktop app so much I jumped at the missing link of portablity. Now I’m out the money I could have spent on crash bandicoot kart racing. ;)
    One thing I hope get add soon is recuring events. I miss it almost as much as syncing with the desktop app. Cheers and thanks again

  122. Scott Jul 12, 2008

    Apologies if this has been answered, but is it safe to assume that the over-the-air sync will also sync desktop versions between computers? Things is the best productivity manager I’ve found to date, with the perfect mix of complexity and ease of use, but the lack of a sync option is a HUGE letdown that actually prevents me from using it (my time is split basically equally between a desktop and a laptop).

    I bought the iPhone application, even though I don’t think I’ll use it at the moment. I did it mostly out of support for you guys. Please make sync across all versions (desktop AND iPhone) your #1 priority!

  123. Joanna Rutkowska Jul 12, 2008

    I hope that it will be possible to also sync via USB cable, not only via over-the-air thing. The latter might be convenient and useful in a corporate environment, but is a very bad solution for any personal/private todos. After all, I really don’t feel like sharing my private life with the IT stuff maintaining my corporate Exchange server or, God forbid, with the Apple’s MobileMe IT administrators!

    I really would like to have an option for *my* todos to stay only on *my* computer’s hard disk and in *my* iPod/iPhone memory.

    Thanks and keep up the good work!

  124. Wolfgang Jul 12, 2008

    I know it has been said a hundred times before, but still: sync! Everybody is complaining about Things for iPhone not syncing, but we should not forget that also the desktop version does not sync well (between Macs). I am using Foldershare as a substitute for true sync between my Macs at home and at the office. It works, but it really should not need these kind of solutions. I like Things; I have tried a couple of other applications, and have always come back to Things because it’s so clean and easy to use. But I am getting worried that you really don’t assign sync the priority it should have.

  125. Dr. J Jul 12, 2008

    @Wolfgang

    2nd That- Reliable sync, whether via .Mac/MobileMe/etc. is a MUST.

    It’s incorrigible for a productivity app to be on “one computer” or device only, and not talk to the same program on another machine or iPhone.

    c’mon!

  126. Pie Jul 12, 2008

    Why is everybody getting so upset over not having sync in 1.0, if they’ve clearly said that the feature will be included in a soon-to-come _free_ update?

    On another note, kudos on the excellent interface design. Really feels like a native iPhone app, much nicer than any others I installed. Even without sync, I find it very useful for my on-the-go todos.

    Thanks for the good job – and do take the weekend off. Don’t start coding now because of what’s been said here, you’ve done well. I hear the weather is nice in and around Berlin this weekend… if that’s where you’re based.

  127. Heartless Jul 12, 2008

    Okay….
    Update via twitter:
    culturedcode Just started working on the missing sync for Things touch. (js) about 4 hours ago from twitterrific

    I want to throw money at these great guys… Give us a product to buy!

  128. Hendrik Jul 12, 2008

    It’s kind of funny that you are giving away a (nearly) perfectly working desktop program and are now selling a (nearly) non-working iPhone program.

  129. Hendrik Jul 12, 2008

    Btw, what happened to the App Store comments? Yesterday there were tons of comments for most apps. Today most of them disappeared.

  130. Anthony Persaud Jul 12, 2008

    Reasons why I DON’T complain about not having sync in 1.0:

    1. They had only 4 months with the iPhone SDK to make sure they met Apple’s deadline for launch.

    2. They had to start from scratch. They had to design the interface for a smaller screen, decide on touch interactions, do actual coding and base testing. (this takes a lot of time when you also have something called ‘FAMILY’).

    3. They released a working version that does the minimum of at least managing your tasks. Do you think it is better to release nothing than something?

    4. They had to concurrently work on their other projects (ex. Things for the Mac).

    5. You can pay NOW a discounted price and get sync FOR FREE on a future update, or you can pay the MORE later for the same features.

    6. Not even OmniFocus iPhone version has proper sync. (You need their ‘Sneaky Peek’ build but it is not official.)

    7. Not even MobileMe (for push sync) is working properly this weekend (it’s intermittent).

    I understand how much work it is to develop reliable software with highly important deadlines. I’m sure if they added a early version of sync some of you would be complaining about something else. I’m not even sure how they could have tested OTA sync with MobileMe and push when the service was not even running properly!

    Hats off to them for their excellent work and I look forward to both the updated desktop and iPhone version.

  131. Silverado Jul 12, 2008

    @Hendrik

    I don’t know what happened to the reviews in the app store, but I noticed that many people “reviewed” apps without buying them, which is really can’t be called a review. I hope they the disappearance has something to do with trying to cleanup that. (It’s unfortunate that you cannot try before you buy, but that’s a different issue.)

    And regarding your first point, they probably weren’t allowed to give an expiring free beta on the app store so they had to do it this way. I don’t really blame them, they were in a tough spot. They worked really hard on the desktop app but can’t make money from it yet and having a seat at the table at the launch of the app store is very significant, but they probably couldn’t have released an expiring beta in the app store. Tough position to be in.

  132. Budka Jul 12, 2008

    Felicitaciones!
    Acabo de comprar el mio.
    Espero el sync!!!

  133. Mike Jul 12, 2008

    Awesome product. I’ve already been getting use out of it. I look forward to being able to sync, but in the mean time, I’ll enjoy it as an away from home ToDo list. Much more efficient than throwing together a list in Notes.

  134. Max Jul 12, 2008

    Sure, I want sync so bad I can taste it. However, I purchased the app in the store as I wanted to offer my support and encouragement to the cultured code team for all the hard work. I love Things and cringe every time I try to use OF instead. So fingers crossed for sync soon. Sync is sooo much more important to me than tags. Looking forward!

  135. [...] and I have been lusting after iPhones and will be getting 3G¬†iPhones¬†soon, so this week’s announcement of Things for the iPhone was a trigger to take another look [...]

  136. Oliver Jul 13, 2008

    I bought also the Things iPhone version directly.
    I read here many negativ comments because Things-Sync.

    For me it is also important, that the app looks very nice (auf Deutsch “die Augen essen mit”). After examining the Omni-Version, for me no need to change ( I don’t like the Icons etc.). I will wait for the next Things update and it’s ok.

    I agree with the Things iPhone website: “Things instead has the right balance between ease of use and powerful features. With Things’ elegance and beautiful design…”

    Btw. I am using the iPhone for the tasks, and actually there is no need for me to sync.

  137. JoeB Jul 13, 2008

    I use Things on the desktop now. It is fantastic, much more useable than OF, which is a very good program. While I agree with many others here that syncing is an essential feature, I’m going to buy Things Touch today because you guys should be rewarded for,and encouraged to continue, your great work on Things (and I won’t be getting my iPhone until August). I have no doubt sync will be coming soon.

  138. Hendrik Jul 13, 2008

    @Silverado:
    Totally agree with you about the useless initial reviews on the App Store. Really bad decision on Apple’s part to allow reviews from people who did not buy an application. It seems that is still how it works though?
    There were tons of reviews along the line of “This should be free. I am not paying money for this.” for pretty much every program that wasn’t free.

    And your reasons for releasing the incomplete iPhone version on App Store launch date certainly make a lot of sense. If I had an iPhone or iPod touch I would likely buy it. But I am in Canada, so the iPhone is sadly not an option for me (ridiculous rates).

  139. sandro Jul 13, 2008

    i really love the desktop version of things
    and yesterday i bought the iphone version :)
    and i love it too :) great app…
    can’t wait the over the air sync :)
    keep making this fantastic job guys…
    and sorry for my bad english :D

    greets from switzerland

  140. John Jul 13, 2008

    I find it ironic that people complain about Sync not quite being there yet for the iPhone version of Things and are going to “Ask Apple for a refund”. I don’t know if you’ve noticed but the desktop version of Things that you want to sync with is (and has been for a long time) free. Sure one day it will be $40, but then in time you’ll look on $40+$10 for desktop+phone as a real bargain.

    @ complainers

    a. Do you think that sync won’t be out in the next few weeks?
    b. Cut the guys some slack – they’ve made some awesome code, and at worst by buying early you’ve saved yourself $10 on the full price and they’ve made 0.05c in early adopter interest
    c. Relax more

  141. Chris Jul 13, 2008

    Great product. Bought it yesterday from the AppStore and already have plenty of business and private tasks organized with it. You have managed to provide a great balance between ease of use and a good feature set. One can right a away get started w/o a manual and “it just works”.

    Top on my wish list are sync capabilities with the desktop version and the new MobileMe service. And tagging would be great to have as well. … and BTW I would really like to rename projects and email all the information associated with a project

    BTW, I think you hit the sweet spot on the price. A price tag of ‚Ǩ7.99 is just low enough to give it a try w/o worrying about the money. In comparison, OmniFocus have chosen a price tag that’s just above the “let’s try how it works” price tag.

    Keep up the great work :-).

  142. Howard Greenstein Jul 13, 2008

    I bought Things in the store to show my support, even though I’ll wait for Sync of any sort (desktop, over the air -couldn’t care less about mobile me) to use it more significantly.
    I think the team at culturedcode, who have been letting me use the Desktop version for free, at least deserves my vote of confidence and $10.
    I’m rooting for you guys.

  143. David Barnes Jul 13, 2008

    I’m another buyer here and thinking that if the development cycle for Things Touch is the same as the rest of the stuff here that it will be soon enough. Thanks for the good work here and I’m actually thinking that having the app on my phone will actually expedite my use as all of that time on the bus and in transit is going to be put to good use planning.

    Then when sync works, I’m all done!

    Thanks again folks!

  144. Michel Jul 13, 2008

    Wishlist:
    1. Syncing with desktop app
    2. Use GPS to determine contexts (like in omnifocus for iphone)
    3. no third wish.

  145. Anssi Jul 13, 2008

    No syncing with desktop means no point using it.

  146. Shawn Jul 13, 2008

    @Brett
    Can you please point out to us where on the App Store product page or ‘Things for iPhone’ web page that it is even eluded to that the identically named desktop app does not sync with the iPhone app. I guess everybody who made that assumption is stupid!

    Look, ‘Things’ is a great program and I don’t fault CC for not being accomplish all features for version 1. It just would have been nice to put such a vitally important nugget of information in plain veiw.

  147. Susan Robbins Jul 13, 2008

    Just a heartfelt THANKS. I will be deliriously happy when it syncs and has tags, but I have patience, and much faith in you guys.

  148. Typo Jul 13, 2008

    Congratulations on the release!

    Let me tell you how I did it: I’ve chosen one kind of projects, entered it into Things touch and deleted it from the desktop version. These project’s needn’t be checked on a daily basis, they’re perfect for trying out the features of Things touch, without sacrificing productivity.

    And when sync is released, it all will merge again (hopefully ;) ).

  149. Roger Jul 13, 2008

    I could crash the application repeatedly in my Touch. When opening the “next” category with different projects inside, dragging an item over the border of a project crashed the application.

    When I did this really slow, it didn’t crash, but fast it crashed on and on.

    Other things that need improvement is the return-button that should act like a save in single line edits.

  150. Ben Jul 13, 2008

    I’ve bought it but am not using it. Good price! I’m trusting sync will come in time.

    I can’t believe I have paid for the iPhone version, am not using it, and am still on the free desktop version.

  151. Rotad Jul 13, 2008

    Thanks for all the hard work guys! I can really see this software making my life much easier to handle data.

    To the complainers:

    Don’t you people see you’re saving money!

    Sure they could have released Touch Things at a later date for $19.99, but instead they gave us the option of buying it without sync for only $9.99 with a free sync update in the near future.

    You can blow $10 waiting for the sync version if you want. Me, I’m buying my Touch Things NOW!

  152. Rishi O. Jul 14, 2008

    Just got it. Looks good but I look forward to further refinement. I just wanted to say that I’m a new “Things” user and have no plans to use the desktop version. I hope they keep it a full featured program on the iPhone that doesn’t require users to sync..

  153. NewbieDesigner Jul 14, 2008

    Hi Guys,

    Yep, without sync it’s not much good to me but I decided to buy it anyway. a) I have had good use out of your desktop app so far and b) hopefully every little bit of money you get from initial sales will decrease the time we wait for the updates.
    Great work.

  154. Simon Jul 14, 2008

    I’m sure you know exactly what you’re doing there at CC. But please don’t settle on using MobileMe for sync! (I can’t imagine you will, since I don’t think this is available to developers until September.) Most people do not want to pay Apple ¬£59 every year.

    Some sort of WebDAV sync would be great and a (pretty much) open standard. WebDAV works brilliantly with iCal. The best hosting providers out there all allow WebDAV access, but maybe you could also offer a competitively priced WebDAV service yourselves for those that can’t use their own server.

    Pleasey! Now stop reading my comment and get on with it. ;-) LOL

  155. Joel Jul 14, 2008

    I agree that not having the ability to sync was a big miss, but understandable under the circumstances, and offset nicely by CC by offering the product at a reduced price.

    However, while over-the-air sync is what you should strive for, let’s get some sort of sync ASAP. I’d rather plug in my iPhone to sync Things with the desktop version soon than wait 6 months to be able to sync over-the-air.

    Syncing is mission critical to this app (IMHO) – over-the-air sync – nice, but not critical.

  156. Silverado Jul 14, 2008

    I personally would NOT use Mobile Me because a) I don’t want to pay $100 for it and b) I don’t want all my information stored at Apple Inc.

    Other than that, simple local WiFi or Bluetooth wireless sync is more than sufficient if not strictly necessary. After all, if all we care about is syncing to our Macs, which we’ll presumably be sitting at while the iPhone is in our pockets (or purses), we don’t need anything more elaborate than local WiFi or Bluetooth sync (a la the Apple Remote app or SplashID).

  157. AW Jul 14, 2008

    True to my word (from previous post), Things was the first application I purchased and downloaded from the App Store. I think interface is great, the included features are all the necessary ones, and the price was right.

    I’d like to voice my support for an implementation of cable-sync ASAP…followed by inclusion of tags on the iPhone version…then the full 1.0 release of the desktop version. WAY down the priority list is over-the-air sync (IMHO).

    Thanks again for the great work!

  158. Eyal Jul 14, 2008

    Will you share the link for buying the iPhone app?

  159. ben Jul 14, 2008

    @Dr. J

    Incorrigible?

    If not yet having syncing capabilities were really “incorrigible”, that means we’d never get them!

    Kudos for the big word…
    if only you knew what it meant!

  160. Jeff Staple Jul 14, 2008

    Hi guys,

    I’m a new Things user (iPod Touch, no Mac) and I absolutely love your app. I was hoping for a great To-Do app on launch day you have delivered. The introductory price was a great idea: I would have purchased the more-publicized OmniFocus if Things was the same price. The only feature I need is recurring events, which I’m sure will come in an update. Tagging and Areas are nice too, but non-essential for me.

    Keep up the fantastic work CC!

    - A New Things Fan

  161. Veltis Jul 14, 2008

    People complaining, demanding a refund, etc:

    SYNC IS COMING. By buying this app now at a discount, you are supporting development work that you’ve already been benefiting from (if you’ve been using the desktop app) and will benefit from in the future. Those who wait until after sync is included (which is already being worked on) will pay more. Your paying in advance means you get a price break. Deal.

  162. Marc van Maastricht Jul 14, 2008

    I’m SO happy with this release, that I bought it immediately, even although I haven’t got an iPhone 3G yet!!
    Now I’m longing for the syncability…
    Will there also be a share-possibility; to post my grocery-list, enabling me, my wife or somebody else doing the shopping, to have a quick look on the internet, or add items on the internet, while Things being updated real time?
    And what about GPS-awareness… wow…

  163. Bill Jul 15, 2008

    If I read the word sync again I will need therapy. Is the world really like this ? Dare I ever try to produce a product that does anything after reading these posts.

    I’d hate to have some of you as neighbors.

  164. Travis Hensgen Jul 15, 2008

    I agree that not having desktop sync makes Things far less useful, but some of you should definitely lighten up. I wonder if the Cultured Code team should have called this “Things Preview” or something, to calm some people down.

    In 6 months time, the iPhone version will no doubt be amazing, the desktop version will be complete with a lightweight new engine behind the scenes, and we’ll all be happily managing our lives with these amazing new tools.

  165. Michael David Jul 15, 2008

    Oh, screenshots with German texts in the app store. Seems that there will be an update shortly… very nice!

  166. Cinderalka Jul 15, 2008

    I second Bill’s comment re: needing therapy if one more person says the word ‘sync’!

    Seriously, it’s this simple:

    1. Buy now, save $10-15, and wait for sync with FREE update.

    2. Buy later, spend $10-15 more, have sync.

    3. Grow up and love what you have! Remember when there was no GTD, no iPhone, no Things?

    4. Either way, congrats on such great work.

  167. Andrei Nadin Jul 15, 2008

    I think this is great, I too have paid for it now (even though my phone is on backorder). For me synching to the desktop is not nearly as important as having a fully featured iphone app, my things to do on my phone is all I’ll ever need :)

  168. Simon Jul 15, 2008

    Sync, sync, sync, sync! Seriously though, people are frustrated about sync because they want this application to be as good as it will be! It’s just a bit of impatience leaking through to the surface. And I’m afraid you have to listen to customer rants and requests (and take them on board) when you are trying to run a successful business. It’s clear to me that CC don’t underestimate the importance of sync.

    Interesting tweet for us all earlier:
    culturedcode: Just uploaded 1.0.1 update, is being reviewed by Apple. Brings bugfixes, german localization. Syncing is… still being worked on :) (c,j,w) about 12 hours ago from twitterrific

  169. Florian Jul 15, 2008

    Great app guys, well done. I use the desktop version and have been very impressed with the iPhone app. It does everything that I need. Tags would be a nice bonus as would the “s-word”. But great start from you guys! Thank you.

  170. infinitme Jul 15, 2008

    i left a review in app store, but wanted to add it here as well.

    2 things i would REALLY LOVE to have added as features:

    - reminder alerts able to be set by minutes, hours, days, and weeks before the task or project

    - setting tasks to recur

    i think this is a nice, solid app – especially in comparison to some of the rush jobs thrown into the app store. looking forward to the updates!

  171. JC Jul 15, 2008

    I’ve got to join the “you messed up by not releasing with sync” crowd. That’s a microsoft style move to release a less than fully functional product just so you can make some early $$. The whole point of a “things” management system is to have a trusted system to get things out of your head. If you expect people to use a stand alone iPhone app as the centerpiece of the trusted system, then you don’t understand your customers or the issue you are trying to solve through your application.

    I suspect you knew this but also new some people would spend the $10 bucks just to have it, even though they can’t really use it for the purpose it was intended. You just couldn’t pass up the $$$.

  172. Pete Jul 15, 2008

    Over the air sync is critical for me. If Things isn’t able to do this over the coming weeks then I am going to have to switch to OmniFocus.

  173. Christian Jul 15, 2008

    I’m really looking forward to trying mobile Things but I can’t because I still don’t have an iPhone. The phone was released almost a week ago and the lines at the apple store as still four hours long. Will the introductory price stay at $10 until iPhones are readily available?

  174. Tim Jul 15, 2008

    Christian, there’s nothing stopping you buying it now in iTunes :-) and when you get your iPhone just sync Things to it.

  175. Zac Imboden Jul 15, 2008

    I bought the app at the iTunes store. It looks great, but like many, it will not be useful until I can sync with my Mac. Nice job. It was very intuitive. I love tapping check boxes.

  176. Mark Berger Jul 15, 2008

    Things is really useful for me and it will be even better if i can sync it with my iphone.

    Now, if you want to turn Things into a real killer app: Add a simple Notes-Feature to both the Desktop- and the Phone-Version that you can sync as well.

    i really can’t believe that apple still didnt implement that simple feature in the new 2.0 software. you guys have to do it!

  177. Adam Jul 15, 2008

    Even though I’m disappointed by not being able so sync, I purchased it because I’ve been so happy with the free beta version of the desktop that I wanted to support the development of such a great app.

    I’m hoping a simple usb sync will be supported quickly which will make the app at least usable for many before getting mobile me over the air sync to work.

  178. david Jul 15, 2008

    I am just curious if you can talk a bit about how you intend to implement sync. Are you going to use MobileMe in some way? Or will you have your own online presence? is the calender sync of todo’s in the iSync stuff helpful to you at all?

  179. Steve Lang Jul 15, 2008

    I bought the touch Things to show some support, and am happy with the discount and look forward to sync and other features (tags, areas). Until now I was using Mobile ToDoList (via jailbreak) so had no synchronization anyways.

    I just started using Things desktop, so I guess my perspective is a bit different.

    Can’t wait for more! Thanks! Steve

  180. Lori123 Jul 15, 2008

    Things touch – hurrah! The icing on the cake will be the S word … like so many ‘thingy’ people i bought this version to support CC is their quest going forward, and very much appreciate the free version of things that we have all enjoyed for the past months.
    Keep going! I support the plan to get the whistles and bells perfected at some point in the near future whole heartedly.
    Those of you who are disappointed not to have sync right off the bat – yes it’s a shame, but there’s nothing else to touch Things out there at present. I’ll bet Chris, Jergen, Oli and Werner want the full all singing and dancing version launched more than any of us!!!
    Hang in there. It’ll be amazing!

  181. Ben Jul 16, 2008

    Will the iPhone version be an open format like the desktop app?

  182. Bill Jul 16, 2008

    I am now taking recommendations for counseling. A therapist that specializes in recurring dreams about people whining in shock about things that they are told will happen would be a preferred specialization.

    I only hold onto sanity from the positive and rational posts that have increased in number over the last 24 hours.

  183. c0heed Jul 16, 2008

    Please bring that sync update soon :D
    6 days since the last blog entry… I hope it will come today!

  184. martinjy Jul 16, 2008

    I want sync and I want tags but I’m flabbergasted at the negativity in some of these comments.

    The commenters who are having a go at you should step back and think about the decision you made. If they’d bothered to read the OP they’d have seen that you know how important sync is to us but decided to get the app out there on day 1 without it (at a special price, no less).

    I imagine you decided that if your app wasn’t there on day 1, those shopping the App Store for GTD apps would probably have bought OmniFocus or something else instead.

    FWIW, I agree with your decision, I am using Things Touch, and look forward to my free update. :-)

  185. Werner Jul 16, 2008

    Reading through your comments, I just wanted to thank you all for your kind words and your support.

    To all of you who mentioned that sync is sorely missing, we hear you, and we fully understand you. We are working as hard as we possibly can to implement this feature.

    Some of you asked how exactly we are going to implement syncing. Just like @Silverado suggested, at first, the iPhone will be able to sync with the desktop version using WiFi. There will be no need of having a MobileMe account or WebDAV. All you have to do is to have both your Mac and your iPhone in the same network so that they can find and talk to each other using Bonjour. Once this form of syncing is implemented, we will release an update in the AppStore. Note that this solution will only allow for the synchronization of one iPhone/iPod and one desktop version of Things at first.

    Your other questions:

    @roy, @infinitme: There is currently no way for an iPhone app to start an alarm at a specific time while it’s not running (this is a deliberate limitation of the SDK by Apple).

    @sue: We will add missing features to Things touch and finish 1.0 of Things for the desktop. Things for Windows would only be possible afterwards, but it is not currently planned.

    @dan and others: If you paid $19.99 for Things at the opening of the AppStore (before the price updated to $9.99), you can contact us to get back $10.

    @chris: You can rename a project by tapping on the blue arrow right to the project name. Then tap “edit” in the navigation bar. Emailing all the info associated with a project will be possible in a future update.

    @Roger: Both issues are solved by 1.0.1. We already uploaded the new version to Apple 2 days ago, but they have to review it before it can go live. Let’s hope it doesn’t take them much longer.

    @Michael: Yes, German localization is included in 1.0.1 as well.

    @Ben: Yes, we will enable input/output to and from Things for the iPhone in the near future by using a completely open format. Note, however, that the iPhone OS does not allow users to access files stored on the device, so we are going to implement the “openness” differently.

  186. c0heed Jul 16, 2008

    Wow, the developers actually read the comments here! :D

    That’s very sympathetic! From which country are you guys, probably Europe?!

    Now I know that my money is in good hands and will help you guys to develop some great stuff!
    Thanks a lot!

  187. Martin Jul 16, 2008

    @c0heed

    As you can see by their incredibly German names, the guys are from Germany – around Tübingen I think. And I agree that they make a pretty good job in being sympathetic. One thing that truly and greatly distinguishes them from the folks at OmniGroup and – god forbid – Midnight Beep.

    Keep it up! :-)

  188. Werner Jul 16, 2008

    Yes, we are all from Germany :)

    And three of us actually studied in Tübingen (Google Maps).

  189. c0heed Jul 16, 2008

    Ach so, na dann kann man mit euch sogar Deutsch reden :D

    Gruss aus der Schweiz!

  190. clb8888 Jul 16, 2008

    @Werner-

    Curiosity is a great downfall of mine when we are talking about updates. Since this is a question that you will likely get I will go ahead and get it out there. You mentioned wifi syncing and an update 1.0.1. Is the wifi syncing enabled in that update or is the update just minor bug fixes?

    Thanks, I am enjoying both products.

  191. Werner Jul 16, 2008

    The 1.0.1 update only contains bugfixes and the German localization. We are still working on the syncing…

  192. Raymond Brigleb Jul 16, 2008

    Bought it. Love it. Can’t wait for the sync’ing. It’s a great first release, although task entry is a bit slow for my taste… it is on the iPhone display so you fit what you can, yes?!?

  193. Max Jul 16, 2008

    Does this mean that one has to launch the program Things on the iPhone before leaving home to sync the program to the desktop version of through WiFi?

  194. Levi Figueira Jul 16, 2008

    Suggestion:

    Maybe instead (or along with) the sync could be a web-based version, √† la MobileMe…

    Just don’t make it subscription based :p

    Good luck guys! Awesome app! =)

  195. Rotad Jul 17, 2008

    A web based version would be awsome!!!

  196. c0heed Jul 17, 2008

    Why do you need a web-based version? you can always make an entry on your iphone, why bring another station into the game?

    @Max
    I think you will have to launch the app on the iphone because background processes are forbidden on the iphone…

  197. Walt Jul 17, 2008

    I bought Things for iPhone and I wanted to tell you that it’s a phenomenal app and I love using it. I really appreciate the simplicity and attention to detail. It works exactly the way I expect and I swear it’s already improving my productivity. Secure sync over the web with Things for the Mac would be a great addition to the feature set and I look forward to seeing what you do next. Thanks again for such a useful piece of software.

  198. harold Jul 17, 2008

    Hi,

    The moment i saw the app on the store I bought it. Is the best to do manager on the app store, by far. Is great to see attention to details. I’m waiting for the update.

    PD: do you plan other localization languages?, i would really love one in spanish.

  199. PK Jul 17, 2008

    Great response guys. I actually switched to the Mac partly because of Things.app. I was very happy to see things on AppStore, only to be disappointed by the lack of tags and syncing. But since the comments here are hinting that we will get both in the near future, I am putting in my $10 vote/support on the appstore now !

    Keep up the great work.

  200. maty Jul 17, 2008

    Hello

    I love things, but whiteout the SYNC whit the desktop version don¬¥t have any sense. I kwow you¬¥re working hard… I wait for this feature.

    Regards from Eiselfing Deutschland

  201. Facu Puig Jul 17, 2008

    After 6 days waiting for the app store to settle down a little bit. I bought Things from app store in Argentina. We might have the iphone down here in maybe a month and a half. But I just wanted to give some support for the developers and get some discount also. Just one question. How is the process to update an app in the iphone? we just “hit” update or what? since I’m not an iphone user I don’t have a clue! thanx!

  202. bill Jul 18, 2008

    Curled up in a ball, rocking back and forth “Why don’t they read?” “Why won’t they read?” “do they know how to read ?” “maybe they read and have forgotten that THEY ARE WORKING ON SYNC !!!

    aaaaarrrggggghhh !

  203. bill Jul 18, 2008

    That means stop asking, commenting, whining, complaining, etc about the lack of sync.

  204. Silverado Jul 18, 2008

    @bill

    This is a comment section and I’m sure CC welcomes comments from different people, even if they are “me too” comments.

  205. Helmut Kobler Jul 18, 2008

    *Love* the idea of painless wireless synching, guys. If you can pull it off, it will be a huge improvement over anything competitors offer. Good luck.

    Just a suggestion about editing Project names and individual To Do data….

    Right now, there are one too many steps for editing something you’ve already created. You have to select that item, then you’re brought to a new page (without much data or buttons on it), and THEN you have to hit the Edit button to finally make a name change, or add a note to a record, or set a due date, etc.

    Why not just put all those editable fields on the first page you’re brought to after you select an item? That way, you don’t need the additional step of clicking the Edit button for yet another page.

  206. Damien Jul 18, 2008

    I agree with Helmut and I was planning to use the “Provide Things Feedback…” menu option in the desktop version to comment on this, but why not post it here to vary some of the topics ;-)
    All those editable fields on the first page would be great to make the creation of a ‘quick note’ really ‘quick’ – as an alternative just jumping directly through to the Title edit page would be a good first step as that’s the first thing you will be doing every single time you’re adding a task anyway.

    Btw, I also already bought your great app – keep it up! (And don’t forget your families!)

  207. Michael Jul 19, 2008

    Things Rocks!!!! I cannot wait until the final desktop version comes out!

  208. Benoit Rondeux Jul 19, 2008

    Hi Guys!

    For 2 years, I have tried a lot of GTD software (if not every software available) and I must say Things seduce me like no other software did. It is shiny (as a designer, It is soooooo important for me), incredibly efficient and full of real innovatives features (tags is the best for sure).

    I have bought and tried the things App for iPhone v2.0 and I would like to congratulate you for this first version. I can quickly add a task in my inbox and that’s very important. The only big missing feature is the ability to sync with the desktop version (I have been disappointed when I realised that) but as you said it will be available soon, I will look carefully in my appstore for the update.

    Keep on doing such a great work with things and have a great weekend!

    Benoît RONDEUX.

  209. Joao Jul 19, 2008

    Hi,
    Bought the iPhone version a couple of days ago, and was already trying out the desktop version. And this is definitely my GTP solution of choice. But unfortunatly with syncronizyion between both versios, the iPhone one is not that much useful.

    Please, but please, make that sync work asap.

  210. Pedro Marques Jul 20, 2008

    Thanks for putting Things for iPhone together guys.

    I understand that you could have withheld it until sync was working but I’m glad you released it so we could play around with it.

    I’ve gone ahead and just started using it as my main Things library. As I complete To Do’s that are in my desktop library, I’ll check them off. New To Do’s are input directly on iPhone. Soon there won’t be anything left to sync :)

    I’m looking forward to the WiFi sync implementation nonetheless.

  211. krrh Jul 20, 2008

    I second the request from Mark Grimes. I’m evaluating both Things and OF at the moment, and I like Things *a lot*, but the location awareness in the OF iphone app is a real game changer. I know you’re focusing on sync right now, but I would love to hear about plans for location awareness in the next version.

  212. miel Jul 20, 2008

    hi there! Thanks for this great app! I am also a desktop user of things and I really love the red numbers of today on the icon! It would be great to see these on the iPhone app too! Then you can see right away you have tasks to do!

    Thanks for things! I am also wondering what the desktop application will cost.

    I have been successfull in changing our company into transitioning to the mac and iPhones too andi am really trying hard to get Things too. It would be great when the collaboration will work on both desktop and iPhone apps too! Also a timeline feature would be helpfull when you are planning projects!

    I can’t afford it, but thanks a million!!

  213. prisca Jul 20, 2008

    hi,

    just to say thanks as well – great app on the iPhone and desktop. After trying out a few different programs etc – this one is just right :) ticks all the right boxes, looks gorgeous and just beats all others hands down :)

    can’t believe you’re getting so much grief from people who seem to rush their purchase without checking out what they’re actually buying… I think you’ve done this just right with getting it out there, offering a good deal on the early purchase with the sync up to date to come.

    Great work – and looking forward to the updates and the release of the DT app ;-)

    vielen Dank ;-)

  214. Moritz Jul 20, 2008

    Thank you guys for the great work. Sync and Tags added and my world is perfect..

  215. Jack Jul 20, 2008

    How come the main screen doesn’t quite fit on the iphone screen?

  216. Simon Jul 20, 2008

    Good point, Jack. If the padding between the four sections of white was reduced, it would all fit in without scrolling. This is one of those tiny tweaks I am sure they will pick up on.

  217. Simon Jul 20, 2008

    From the twitter statuses: 1.1 (sync) will take a few days more. (js)

    …Plus maybe a week for Apple to get their act together and approve the update – how exciting!

  218. Nick Jul 21, 2008

    I’ve just bought your iphone app. Its pretty disappointing that sync isn’t included with your first release since the app is unusable for me without that. So I’m just treating this as an early buyer discount and I hope you sort your app out soon. Very soon!

  219. Alan Jul 21, 2008

    I note from above a few comments questioning people’s criticism of Things. First of all Things desktop is a BETA product and it is fair that there are bugs and features yet to add. But as soon as you go commercial, as Things for iPhone is, the game does change somewhat and customer expectations change.

    Let’s all acknowledge that Things is a delightful product and the guys at Cultured Coder are doing a great job. But let’s also not fall into the trap of ‘Web Rock Stardom’ and criticise criticism. I’m sure the guys at CC fully want and respect their customers criticism as this means future directions and prioritisation’s are user driven.

  220. Alan Jul 21, 2008

    Have been using Things for iPhone. Could I suggest that a ‘Delete’ button is included on the Info page? You can move and send by email, but seems odd that you can’t delete. Maybe on the Edit screen as well? Thx.

  221. c0heed Jul 21, 2008

    The 1.0.1 Update hasn’t arrived in Switzerland yet… Come on Apple, I want things in germand :)

    I hope the approval of 1.1 will not take so long..

  222. Steve Jul 21, 2008

    Hey guys,

    great job! But I guess we all need the sync feature! Please work hard on it! I already bought both and can’t wait for it to work!

  223. ben Jul 21, 2008

    Yes, editable Title on first page upon ToDo creation would be better.

    Apart from the other expected enhancements, I am enjoying this product.

    (I just discovered the slight swipe gesture method of deleting items in a list..right to left..in empty space next to item name…nifty :)

  224. bill Jul 21, 2008

    Still seeing more reasonable posts but the new words that send me over the edge are

    but still
    asap
    useless without

    Wonder if these are the same people who are ‘whining about the us economy”?

  225. ben Jul 21, 2008

    @bill

    Way to take this thread to another level!

  226. Neil Jul 21, 2008

    Bill, the criticism is valid. But only CC knows whether putting development of the desktop application on hold to launch the iPhone app was a mistake or a good decision. So far I would deem it a success, but the tide could turn if CC does not execute. First and foremost, they should publish a follow-up blog post about the past two weeks. Second, CC needs to launch Things 1.0. If it does that by August with a bug fix 1.1 by Labor Day, even the critics will become fans. That’s my take anyway.

  227. Freek Jul 21, 2008

    I’ve bought the iPhone app and I’m very happy with it so far. Yes, over the air syncing with the desktop version that I also have (the free trial offcourse) should be your number one priority for now. If it does sync, I would surely be glad to buy also the desktop version!

  228. Achim Jul 21, 2008

    Wow … NO localized version available?! I know, this may not be the main focus (as everybody is thinking about sync – me included), but on the other hand, it wouldn’t be done by you guys I assume. What’s up with that?

    And on another note, will there be any discount for users (means buyers) of both, the iPhone and Desktop app, versions?

  229. Neil Jul 22, 2008

    You wrote: “Just like @Silverado suggested, at first, the iPhone will be able to sync with the desktop version using WiFi. There will be no need of having a MobileMe account or WebDAV”

    For many of us, I don’t think that’s what we mean by sync. What sync means in today’s world is over the air push synchronization. Add a task to your iPhone in some conference room and your computer is updated. Add a task on your home computer and your work computer and iPhone are updated. Etc.

    For a desktop application, I realize this means using MobileMe or some other service. Herein lies the advantage of Web apps. You can handle sync services on your own for all customers.

    Does anyone here care about WiFi syncing or were you hoping for the syncing I described?

  230. Mark Berger Jul 22, 2008

    @Neil:

    You are right!

  231. Bin Jul 22, 2008

    You people seem to think that CC are your mates developing an app for you and you alone.

    Stop acting like dicks. (Oh the flame I shall now receive)

  232. c0heed Jul 22, 2008

    @ Neil
    I really don’t think that there will be a push service!
    For me it would be enough the sync would be automatically activated when the two devices are in the same network…

  233. Mark Berger Jul 22, 2008

    @Bin:

    I thought its good for a developer to get some feedback to make their product better. maybe i was wrong with that.

  234. Sylvain Jul 22, 2008

    I just got a Things update in the Store. Apple seems to let several update through in one go. About 5/10 applications suddenly had an update ready.

  235. c0heed Jul 22, 2008

    No updates for me :(

  236. will Jul 22, 2008

    Guys great stuff. Loving the Daily Tweet. Reminds us that you are there and working hard. You are not there just for us you have lives outside of your work. Looking forward to updates but don’t kill yourselves for it. When you have a good working upgrade let us have it. Until then we’ll see you are working hard and be happy with that. ;)

  237. Simon Jul 22, 2008

    @Mark Berger: Ignore Bin. ;-) You’re right.

    @Sylvain: Yes, I had Things flagged as “Update available” along with a load of other applications, but turns out it is still 1.0. Must be yet another Apple bug. MobileMe ahem.

  238. Karen Axe Jul 22, 2008

    Neil – I don’t think push capability will even be an option until the fall. If I remember correctly, in the keynote address Steve Jobs told the developers that they would be able to add that capability to their apps in September.

  239. Bin Jul 22, 2008

    @Mark Berger & Simon: according to Wikipedia, feedback is “…a process of sharing observations, concerns and suggestions…”. Stuff like “You idiots! Why did you release it without sync? This is completely useless! Completely! Useless! I’m moving to another app” (in most cases, granted, the “idiots” bit is only implied) does by no means or measure qualify as feedback, but does lend a terribly childish tone to what had until July 11th been a very interesting blog with sensible comments.

    Now, a bug report – when I untick an item in the logbook and then move it back to, say, Next, it’s still ticked. Feature or bug?

  240. Simon Jul 22, 2008

    @Bin: Apologies, I thought when you said “You people seem to think that CC are your mates developing an app for you and you alone” that you were saying that people who were making constructive comments and bug reports should keep quiet. Now I realise you were talking about people throwing their toys out of their prams. :-)

    I think Mark got the wrong end of the stick as well.

  241. Cesar Jul 22, 2008

    Hi guys!:

    Just bought the iphone version to add to my osx one. You know the importance of syncing, so I just did buy it to help you out and encourage the whole team into developing it asap.

    Godspeed!

    CQ. (Spain)

  242. Neil Jul 22, 2008

    Karen, I don’t know what kind of data that system can handle, but other means are available. As I mentioned, I think Web apps have an enormous advantage because then the developer can provide sync services to all customers without the need for any third parties. For an app like Things, I believe the company could use Webdav.

    OmniFocus, which I eagerly bought for everyone at our company only to have us all throw up our hands and give up on it, is somehow using MobileMe to provide sync services. Life is so unfair. I want to use Things, but OmniFocus seems to have better sync (right now).

  243. Neil Jul 22, 2008

    c0heed, many businesses, including ours, don’t have a WiFi network. We sit on our butts all day and have very few meetings so we have no need for one. I have one at home of course, but Things is a business application so I would think the focus would be on the office more than the home. Just another reason why over-the-air sync is king.

    Think of it this way — would the BlackBerry have achieved its success without its trademark over-the-air push sync? I think not.

  244. Pedro Marques Jul 23, 2008

    Alan said:

    I note from above a few comments questioning people’s criticism of Things. First of all Things desktop is a BETA product and it is fair that there are bugs and features yet to add. But as soon as you go commercial, as Things for iPhone is, the game does change somewhat and customer expectations change.

    Alan, the desktop Things is BETA so it is acceptable that there are bugs and missing features.

    Yet, you think it’s unacceptable that Things Touch not have a syncing feature with the BETA version?

    Things Desktop, for all intents and purposes doesn’t exist. It hasn’t been launched. Things Touch doesn’t need to support sync to a BETA app.

    Things Touch is feature complete. It works very well as an app on it’s own. Until you begin paying for the desktop version, I don’t see why you can complain that syncing to it is not supported.

  245. Morgan Daly Jul 23, 2008

    I am also ready and willing to pay for the desktop version of things anytime you guys are. Love your work and want to support the development with cash. Having said that, as much I want to see you guys get syncing etc up and running, I believe that what makes your apps so good is the time and care that you are obviously taking. You do what you have to do. I will wait. Thanks

  246. Boris Bozic Jul 23, 2008

    I can’t believe you guys have me checking the App Store everyday hoping to see an update :)

    Me and things was love at first sight.

    Desktop app is wonderful, as is the iphone version.

    As much as I want sync, I’d rather wait longer and have sync done right, instead of waiting and then being dissapointed that it isnt as good as the rest of the app.

    We do web apps so I know what the dev process is like.

    Take you time guys, it looks like it’ll be worth it!

  247. Alan Jul 23, 2008

    Pedro Marques said:

    Yet, you think it’s unacceptable that Things Touch not have a syncing feature with the BETA version?

    Hi Pedro, thx for your comment. You’ve misunderstood me though.

    I am not complaining at all. I am merely stating that it is not fair to criticise those paying customers that clearly had expectations that were not met.

    Your point about Things Desktop is exactly what I’m saying, it’s a BETA and bugs etc must be expected and no right to complain at all.

    But paying customers do have valid expectations and a right to voice their concerns if they feel an expectation ha not been met. That’s all I’m saying.

    Have a nice day! ;-)

    Alan

  248. pgiltner Jul 23, 2008

    you know,things was the reason I went out and got an iPod Touch.

  249. Meyli Jul 23, 2008

    Great app, still incomplete but work in progress ^^

    I’m eager to get:
    - synchronisation
    - French localisation

    Have a nice day,

    Meyli

  250. ikarus Jul 24, 2008

    Pedros Marques commented:

    “Things Touch is feature complete. It works very well as an app on it’s own. Until you begin paying for the desktop version, I don’t see why you can complain that syncing to it is not supported.”

    Sadly, not true.

    Things will not open on my iPhone, so I deleted it from the iPhone, hoping to re-install it on sync. No such luck – iTunes tells me I can’t install the software as it is not authorised for my computer (what?).

    I appreciate that this is almost certainly an Apple problem, but so far I have had no response or acknowledgement of the problem from CC to a bug report, or to raising it on the forum (that only revealed others have the same problem).

    I like things, and I’m using the Beta Desktop version enthusiastically. But I’ve paid for the iPhone version, and I can’t use it and I can’t reinstall it.

    Cheers
    John

  251. RickO Jul 24, 2008

    Something’s got to be wrong at the app store. (Shocking, I know.) I still haven’t seen the Things update (the copy I have in iTunes says it’s version 110), but I’ve seen two updates for the Stand Alone Software’s Crosswords app; version 1.01 arrived within the last week and version 1.1 was posted today.

    However, note that while the App Store app on my iPhone detects when a software update arrives, my iTunes doesn’t. The copy of Crosswords that I have in iTunes is v1.0, the copy on my iPhone this morning is v1.01, and the copy in the iTunes store is v1.1. All the while, iTunes tells me no updates are available. Go figure there would be a software problem at Apple during the iPhone 2.0 launch…

    Anyway, is there any possibility of resubmitting the Things update to Apple, perhaps with a tweaked version number, so that maybe they’ll get it right and post it this time?

  252. Jürgen Jul 24, 2008

    @RickO, unfortunately there is no way of resubmitting an application to the iTunes App Store. Once an update for a certain app is in review, the upload page no longer accepts new submissions for that same app. We have already written an Email to Apple. Now we are not only waiting for 1.0.1 to be accepted (10 days!), we are also waiting for an answer to our email.

    I believe that Apple hasn’t assigned enough people to handle the reviewing. I also hope the situation will be remedied.

  253. Jürgen Jul 24, 2008

    @ikarus, I am sorry your email is still unanswered. Oli and Chris are working very hard to answer as many emails they possibly can.

    Today we updated the iPhone FAQs (scroll down to the very bottom). It has a solution for the iTunes app installation problem. If that doesn’t work for you, however, then you should contact Apple support.

  254. Frank Jul 24, 2008

    Things will not open on my iPhone, so I deleted it from the iPhone, hoping to re-install it on sync. No such luck – iTunes tells me I can’t install the software as it is not authorised for my computer (what?).

    Go into iTunes->Applications (installed apps) and click on Things. That should prompt you for your iTunes login and password. Enter that and you should then be authorized.

  255. Jt Hollister Jul 25, 2008

    hey,
    Thanks for all your hard work on Things! I think you are aware that you need syncing by now LOL. Can’t believe all the negativity in here! Don’t get discouraged, the only reason people get their panties in a twist is because they love the prodoct so much and want to use it.

    Anyway I wanted to point out that I found a bug. Not sure how I invoked it but now I can’t move the todos up and down. It just closes if I do. Not sure if this is just the firmware or if this is fixed in the coming update but thought I would mention it.

  256. Jürgen Jul 25, 2008

    @Jt Hollister, it is actually a bug in the iPhone OS. We found a workaround 11 days ago. The fix is part of 1.0.1. Until Apple puts the update online, try avoiding dragging from the bottom of the screen.

    And thanks for your encouragement!

  257. Sylvain Jul 25, 2008

    This is kind of worrying: http://www.tuaw.com/2008/07/25/data-loss-from-app-store-updates/

    Does this mean that if the update comes online, it will erase the current to-do’s?

  258. Sylvain Jul 25, 2008

    And on the other hand, what is taking so long at the apple side?

  259. Elliott Pogue Jul 25, 2008

    Loving Things right now, both on my iPhone and my Mac! I’m looking forward to synchronization and other updates!

  260. Jt Hollister Jul 26, 2008

    @silvain: data loss isn’t the norm but the exception. If it happens to you just restore from your last backup and try again

  261. Bill Jul 26, 2008

    @ neil – 4 days ago

    Oh how the posts have improved !

    Neil is a shining example of how to be an adult. He doesn’t agree entirely, makes his point, and moves on. He articulates well and appears to actually READ before he types.

    I mean the above with true sincerity and no sarcasm.

    Neil, regardless of where we sit on this issue, you have my thanks and respect.

    To Neil’s points.

    An update on their efforts would be welcome. I come from the fan perspective though. More meat to help cheer them on in their success would be great.

  262. Michael Jul 26, 2008

    Yep, Apple is dragging their feet with this one. I’ve had a dozen programs update, but Things isn’t one of them!

  263. Zach Jul 27, 2008

    I bought things for my iphone even though it doesn’t have syncing, which means I can’t actually start using it yet. Think of it as my way of encouraging what looks to be the todo application I’ve wanted for years. :)

  264. Marco Jul 27, 2008

    As a current OmniFocus user, let me just say that your app looks incredibly promising, but not yet there.

    Shipping the iPhone application without syncing capabilities was a major showstopper for many, and I must say I didn’t even bother downloading Things.

    Location-awareness and “multimedial” notes (photos, audio) are strong points in OF for the iPhone, and those are keeping many users (including me) tied to that app on the desktop, as well.

    However, OF’s interface is INSUFFERABLE. It hurts my eyes and it breaks my nerves. The lack of an archiving system for completed single actions, and the inability to effectively separate completed projects is a kick in the face of usability.

    This rant was meant to be an encouragement to Cultured Code. Come on guys, you got it right, just a few more features and you’ll reign the market…

  265. Mark Jul 27, 2008

    I’m with Zach — I kicked in $10 even though I’m not using it yet in the spirit of getting Things going. Good luck!

  266. Neil Jul 28, 2008

    Bill, thank you for your kind words. You can’t win a debate if you don’t take the time to understand the other side’s position. And you can’t persuade people if you get angry.

    Since it’s a zero sum world, I’d like to pass along a compliment to Marco. I think he perfectly summed up the frustrations of the OmniFocus contingent (though I don’t need location awareness personally). You have to understand how much of a letdown OF was because of its pre-launch hype and post-launch interface woes.

    That’s why we’re now pinning our hopes on Things just as we pinned our hopes on OF a year ago. And that’s why we’re disappointed that the launch of Things was delayed by the iPhone app. I need Things now. I could wait a few months for the iPhone app. Most of us still work in front of our Macs most of the time, right? (I know there’s a Preview version available, but I don’t have time to deal with beta software.)

  267. Frank Jul 28, 2008

    A reply to Neil. Friend, the preview is amazing. You’re robbing yourself of a very satisfying UI. I admit that I’m new to the cult of GTD, but I looked pretty hard at OF, and Things blows it away. The only thing greater than my frustration waiting for my iPhone to sync is my love for these guys and their desktop app. Do yourself a favor and make “time to deal with beta software”. It’s great, even if it lacks a couple of final release features. Blessings.

  268. c0heed Jul 28, 2008

    oh man apple is so slow… 2 weeks and the update is still not there…

    if cc would submit the “sync-update” now, it would still take 2 wekks until we get it :(

  269. Levi Figueira Jul 28, 2008

    I’m with Zach and Mark… I bought it as a way to encourage you guys, but I need a web interface or the sync (both? :)) up and running before I can actually make use of it! :)

    Keep it up guys! =D

  270. Collin Ivy Jul 29, 2008

    I was looking at Things on the iPhone apps and it shows 0 downloads in the popularity section. I wonder if there is a communication problem or something.

  271. Susan Robbins Jul 29, 2008

    It’s there now, the new version! It shows as 1.0.1 in the App Store, and version 122 in iTunes after you’ve downloaded it. Finally!

  272. Susan Robbins Jul 29, 2008

    @Collin Ivy, all apps seem to show 0 downloads, and have done so from almost the beginning. I hear there was a very short time when there were actual figures there, but Apple apparently reset them to zero. So you can’t judge by that. Look at one of the apps that you know is popular and you’ll see.

  273. Scott Jul 29, 2008

    As one of the seemingly many people who have paid the $10 more out of support than compensation for an app they don’t even use, it would be nice to see an update from cc on what’s going on with sync. One of the benefits of these indie shops is that they tend to be more transparent, and while I credit the developers for responding to comments in this thread, I’d still like to see more. I actually just bought OF because I needed sync that badly, but I really hate the interface and can’t stand the iPhone version.

    So again, thanks for the hard work but please please give us a nice update.

  274. Susan Robbins Jul 29, 2008

    By the way, I did NOT get a prompt to download the update for Things, either on the phone or on my laptop (both are sitting right in front of me). I just went ahead and downloaded it. If you do that, you’ll get the warning that you’ll be charged for it. But if you’ve already paid for it, when you click the button to pay, you’ll get another message saying that since you’ve already paid, you can download another copy (or the update, I forget exactly what it reads) for free. That is standard for both updates and re-downloads.

    I had both the phone and the laptop in front of me because I had just been writing two “Report a Problem” messages to Apple. One was regarding repeat messages to download the same update (for another app, not Things obviously). I also get repeat updates for other apps where the version number doesn’t change from the original, although the features obviously are for the updated version (the AIM app is a good example). Often I’ll get notices on the phone of updates, but not on the laptop — it says there are no updates. Then suddenly the laptop says I have 10 updates, but it may not include all the ones the phone says I have. While I was writing the first problem report today the phone jumped from the one bogus update announcement to three. One of the other two seems legitimate. The second one gives a version number lower than what I already have — the App Store also shows the lower number, although the features are obviously updated. While I was pondering that, all three updates disappeared and the phone reported that all apps were up-to-date. After a while they all came back again.

    I get the impression there are more than a few screws loose in the App Store. One would expect a little flakiness in a brand-new store, I guess, but it does seem a little excessive. Reading in the Apple discussion forums a bit, I can tell that I’m not the only one seeing this kind of behavior (especially the phone not corresponding with the computer).

    My second “Report a Problem” message was to ask specifically about Things. I DID have an alert to an update quite a while ago. With the kind of flakiness I’ve mentioned here, I had no idea whether it was the real update or not, but I guessed not, because not only did the version number not change in the application on my computer, but it didn’t change in the App Store. I don’t think I would have noticed any change in features, as I live in the U.S., but I’m sure anyone affected by German localization would be letting us know by now. But I did feel compelled to use the “Report a Problem” feature, given the large number of problems I had seen with version numbers in other apps. I wondered if MAYBE someone THOUGHT they had released the thing some time ago. Possibly. Who knows.

    So I asked them to please look into it, at least. And mentioned how long it has been since the developers had submitted the update, and that they hadn’t been able to communicate with Apple.

    I feel quite sure that no human being has even looked at my little message yet, let alone that it had any effect on the release of the update. But I’ve been going back and forth between my work and the App Store, watching batches of new apps, and mostly updates to older ones, be released this evening, and suddenly… there it was. About an hour after I submitted the problem report.

  275. Michael Jul 29, 2008

    I also had to manually update my Things Touch, as well as a number of other Apps that didn’t show up under iTunes Update or iPod Touch Update. Looks like Apple has some bugs to work out….

  276. Ron Sell Jul 29, 2008

    The update is published. Just got it.

  277. Michael Jul 29, 2008

    I haven’t tried the German localization, but the rest of the update seems pretty stable. I really dig being able to use the ‘return’ key in place of ‘save’ in the ‘New To Do’.

    Something I would like to see is a ‘One Tap – New To Do’. I would like to be able to press the ‘New To Do’ plus (+) sign once, then go straight into typing my title; instead of having to press the plus sign, then the Title to input a new task. Would this be a viable feature?

  278. Ali Jul 29, 2008

    Both applications for Mac and iPhone are just great with one missing point which is seriously annoying me: synchronization!

    I know you are working on it and I hope you release it ASAP because without sync, the iPhone app just loses its value.

    Thanks,

    -Ali

  279. Richard STRIEBEL Jul 29, 2008

    Bonjour,
    What about “People” in the IPhone version ?
    Do you plan to pout “Poeple” in the next version of Things for iphone (as tags) ?

  280. Glen Pawson Jul 29, 2008

    Hi chaps, do we have an ETA in the sync? although I purchased the iphone app as soon as I knew it was there, I am still yet to use it – there is just no point!

    Hoping it’s soon!

  281. Frank R. Jul 29, 2008

    Updated to 1.0.1 – no data loss (thankfully!).

  282. Tim Henderson Jul 29, 2008

    I have been unable to update Things or anything else. Both at the app store and on my iPhone I get warnings that I’m not qualified and will pay full price. When I say okay to those I get the following message at both “stores”

    “This item is currently being modified. Please try again later.”

    This happened several times last night and is still happening this morning.

  283. ben Jul 29, 2008

    I updated to the new version today and Things has now lost all my to-do’s. Not happy.

    Bring on the sync ASAP.

  284. c0heed Jul 29, 2008

    I don’t know if i lost data, because i didn’t have any tasks, whithout sync it’s useless :D
    So my update was succesfull! ^^

    But I lost data on other apps by updating them, so I think it’s Apples fault…

  285. will Jul 29, 2008

    update fine. No loss of data. Not using it much only had 4 entries because of sync issue. But this update went well

  286. Dennis Jul 29, 2008

    Just updated and lost all date. It’s not a big issue because of the missing sync Things on the iPod Touch is rarely in use.

  287. Lori123 Jul 29, 2008

    Hi I’m with Glen. Cant get my head round using two ‘Things’ systems, and also purchased iphone version to offer support … but dont use it yet, am too involved wiht the desktop version!

    This is not intended to add to the ist of moaners out there, however it would be nice to hear how the CC boffins are progresing and if there is any eta for the ultimate sync version. An update would be great!

    Also, any news on the further development of Things for desktop? That’s all gone quiet too. Now, last time that happened, something was in the wind …… Werner, you out there? ;)
    Hello?

  288. ben Jul 29, 2008

    I installed an update over my iPod Touch.
    Or so I thought I did.
    The application didn’t change at all.

    Judging by people’s claims of losing all their data, I’m rather grateful it didn’t work for me!

    I would be wary of installing any update until we hear more official word from Things’ creators.

  289. steve Jul 29, 2008

    I installed the update from my iPhone because it wasn’t yet showing up in iTunes. I only had a few items, but no data loss for me.

  290. c0heed Jul 29, 2008

    this data loss issue is not culturedcodes fault… a lot of apps had this issue and i think that only apple can fix this.

  291. Florian Jul 29, 2008

    Installed the update. No data loss for me. Thank you.

  292. Florian Jul 29, 2008

    I’m worried that I might stir up a hornet’s nest here, but I am not too bothered about not having sync as I am quite happy to use the iPhone version in lieu of my desktop version. I would like to see tags though, so any idea when (if?) those will get incorporated into the iPhone app? Thanks for a brilliant app.

  293. Karen Jul 29, 2008

    Installed update. No data loss. I did have it crash when I went into a deleted item and tried to delete it again – not a critical crash problem obviously.

    I would really like to see the items on the ipod version drop off my list when I check them as done or delete them. It drives me nuts to keep looking through a list of tasks that are no longer relevant.

  294. ben Jul 29, 2008

    I’m 99.9% sure the data loss was an issue with Apple and the way they update the apps. I only lost about 12 things and I can remember that many!

    Hopefully Apple will sort the issue out though, not going to update anything with data in it for the time being unless i have backup / copies of the data.

  295. Anonymous Jul 29, 2008

    I think, apple replaces the complete application during the update process and the user data gets lost, because it’s included in the the folder as the application.
    that it worked correctly for some people, may have to do something with the sync. maybe the user data thats stored on the computer doesn’t get deleted, but the data thats only on the phone gets overwritten instead of copied to the computer first.
    I guess, you shoult try first to sync the complete phone / computer with iTunes and install the update(s) directly after the syncing process

  296. bugeye Jul 29, 2008

    I updated with no loss of data.

    Although I am looking forward to new features like tags and syncing, I would urge everyone to be patient. Syncing in particular is a complex feature to implement, with risks of data loss if things go wrong. Let’s give these guys the time they need to code and test thoroughly before pushing out an update. If we’re to have a “trusted system”, things can’t be rushed.

    In the meantime, I am treating Things Touch as a separate system for capturing things like shopping and errand to-dos, so I have those lists handy when I’m out and about. And sometimes I launch the app just to sooth my eyes with the crisp, clean interface and to dream of fancy functionality that may one day come.

  297. Chuck P Jul 29, 2008

    Updated original iPhone (nope, I’m not one of the cool new guys…) with 1.0.1 via iPhone app store update. Lost all my data. A novel approach to completing all my to-dos…

  298. Simon Jul 29, 2008

    Do you guys publish a CHANGELOG?

    Also, I agree that some idea of when the sync version might hit the store would also be good for us users, please.

    The iTunes App Store showed 1.0.1 and I checked for updates in both iTunes and on my iPhone 3G but “no updates found” was the response. Apple really are getting sloppy these days. I did the re-download > are you sure you want to pay for this > this update is free thing instead. All my data was moved across just fine thankfully.

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  300. bugeye Jul 29, 2008

    It seems that one can either update directly on the iDevice, or update through iTunes and have the update applied when syncing occurs. I’m curious if that has anything to do with the data loss issue.

    I updated directly from my (2G) iPhone and experienced no loss.

  301. Dennis Jul 29, 2008

    @bugeye Good question. But I updated directly from my iPod Touch and lost all data.

  302. Simon Jul 29, 2008

    …And I upgraded from my iTunes and lost no data. …So we’ve kind of torn your theory to shreds in the space of two comments. :-D

  303. Guillermo Avalos Jul 29, 2008

    Just got the .0.1 update. Seems to be working fine, but still no sync!
    1Password has done a really good job at that department. Things on the iPhone with no sync is pretty much useless. I hope it’s coming soon.

  304. Pedro Marques Jul 30, 2008

    I updated without any data loss. Worked flawlessly.

    Dragging a task from the bottom of a list to the top no longer crashes Things.

    Regarding small adjustments, I’ll reiterate what was said way up in the early comments: the main screen’s List could use a smidge less spacing between items so that the page doesn’t scroll. iPhone’s screen is the same for everybody, the screen size is known so this should be an easy fix.

    Karen said:
    [blockquote]
    I would really like to see the items on the ipod version drop off my list when I check them as done or delete them. It drives me nuts to keep looking through a list of tasks that are no longer relevant.[/blockquote]

    I’m on the flipside: I find it quite satisfying to look at all the items checked off throughout the day. They automatically drop out of the list every day when they get logged so you get a clean slate in the morning.

    Perhaps CC could satisfy both camps by adding an option in the Settings to immediately log completed items or to leave them there until the automatic log.

  305. Pedro Marques Jul 30, 2008

    Florian said:

    I’m worried that I might stir up a hornet’s nest here, but I am not too bothered about not having sync as I am quite happy to use the iPhone version in lieu of my desktop version. I would like to see tags though, so any idea when (if?) those will get incorporated into the iPhone app? Thanks for a brilliant app.

    I agree. I find that Things touch is so much more useful that I find myself using it exclusively.

    Right now, I only see a need for Things desktop to create complex projects with many tasks where adding them on iPhone would be tedious.

    Otherwise, I’ve been using Things touch as a standalone app and I’m very satisfied.

    Something noteworthy: Apple seems to have gotten nearly 100 new apps and updates up within the last 48 hours. It seems like they’ve finally hired some help. Hopefully that means that the next update of Things doesn’t take 2 weeks from submission to publishing.

  306. mark Jul 30, 2008

    Will you please make THINGS capable of syncing with Windows, not just mac?

  307. Denis Jul 30, 2008

    Thank you for the program, using desktop version and very happy for the emergence versions iphone. I look forward synchronization, very lacking

  308. Nick Toye Jul 30, 2008

    @Mark, its a Mac application. Just buy a Mac and ditch Windows, you’ll not regret it.

  309. Sharon Jul 30, 2008

    Can’t wait for the sync between iphone and desktop version. Any chance you can give us an approximation of how far off you are? Is it likely to be within weeks or are we looking at months do you think? Have purchased the iphone version as well now, but as others have mentioned, no point using until it syncs…

  310. Bart Jul 30, 2008

    Hey guys google just released CalDav (http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?answer=99358) so we can finally sync ical and gcal easily, still they don’t support todos so my question is would it be possible to get things to sync to ical only to the calendar and not the todo sidebar? so you basically could have a choice only sync tasks that have a due date and put them on the ical that way your tasks will appear on ical and gcal … any possibility of doing this?

  311. Jack Jul 30, 2008

    @Pedro, The main screen will have more items added in future versions so the scrolling is intentional.

    From Werner:
    Main screen: I’m afraid it is not possible to customize the distance between the different sections. Apple does not provide this functionality in the SDK. But the main list is actually missing one item that we removed before the release: “Tags”. Once that is added, the the list will look much nicer (everything will fit on the screen perfectly except for the Logbook).

  312. Collin Ivy Jul 30, 2008

    @Susan Robbins Hey thanks, I thought they were getting the short end of the stick.

    So far, I love this app. Thank you so much guys!

  313. Emmett Jul 31, 2008

    I’m about to purchase the iPhone version of Things, but I’d like to ask a Q.

    I don’t have a Mac and currently will be unable to(work demands a PC & home would need retraining of spousal unit + child units). Will there be a way for me to backup / access my info from the web or PC?

    Thanks!

  314. c0heed Jul 31, 2008

    Where are the new daily tweets? :(
    Is cc dead? ;D

  315. Simon Jul 31, 2008

    @c0heed: Quick, somebody resuscitate them, I need sync! ;-)

    Hopefully they’re too busy putting the final touches to 1.1 to tweet.

  316. Corby Jul 31, 2008

    Maybe I missed it, but how do I tell on my iPhone which version I have?

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  318. bnbarry34 Aug 01, 2008

    dude – here’s a new idea. What about syncing the ipod touch version to the desktop?

    jk lol – OMG i’ve never seen so much angst and anticipation about a software rev before. but it’s definitely merited. I too – have bought Things for my Ipod and haven’t used it once becuase it doesnt’ sync to the desktop version.

    so all kidding aside – to the folks at CC. Please help us out and get 1.1 to launch! Hurry up, but be thorough (is that an oxymoron? lol)

  319. tsuno Sep 01, 2008

    I bought and love this app. Thank you! Next, I wish this app will be able to sync to desktop app. I think many people are thinking so.